yeah, but how many people don't admit to using other DAWs. as i heard Liam only uses reason for drum tracks piped straight into a 'serious' DAW. and i'm sure many other people do this.......but don't tell.
I know that Reason used to have a very poor mixer in it back in the day. Back then you had to rewire all your reason instruments thru another DAW to get a decent sounding mix. End of story. But I understand that they fixed that problem in v3. I wouldn't know. I don't use it. Maybe you heard about Prodigy rewiring into something else from that time.
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I guess that would have to be Reaper. You could deffo make industry standard tracks with that. But it's more geared to audio recording than composing in MIDI. For a while I was considering moving to it from Cubase, for the side-chaining. But the poor midi features, the problems with UAD-1 and Cubase 4.1 all convinced me to stay with Steinberg.
I think it is possible to create industry standard songs on reason. I use reason 4 and think its great all around, but i always mix my songs in cubase after, just a personal preference.
Reason is for any kind of music out there...and there's a whole lot of sound support for it. TOns of refills available for it. Put it this way, I own many hardware synths and workstations in my setup, but Reason can do and out do all of them!
SO the answer to your question, sure, absolutely, Reason can be used for industry and commercial sounding music.
Reason is an extremely powerful tool and has awesome features..
But it does seem to be limited in certain areas..
Songs can be created with it that sound good..
But it seem that it should be considered a powerful VSTi instead of a DAW..
But it seem that it should be considered a powerful VSTi instead of a DAW..
I have to strongly disagree, I've just had another 3 tunes produced exclusively on Reason signed. If you want to hear them, check out the link on my website, you're looking for the blurb about the Vicious EP.
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Reason is an extremely powerful tool and has awesome features..
But it does seem to be limited in certain areas..
Songs can be created with it that sound good..
But it seem that it should be considered a powerful VSTi instead of a DAW..
It's Hella fun though..
I think Reason not being a DAW was a preconcieved concept, that way you can record audio with whatever DAW you are used to such as Cubase, ProTools, Sonar, etc...all of which do great audio and midi recording.
What limitations did you find that I may not have noticed? I think Reason just keeps getting better and better since version 4.
You can make "industry standard music " on a casio, if you put enough work in the track. First you hav to have good sounds, thena blend melody and blend, put after making the track, the most important part is mixing and mastering. it's two totally separate processes. A bad mix & master can make a track produced some of the best in the music business sound horrible.
I think people question it, because its quiet a strange proposition. It looks like a DAW, but because it can't record and handle audio; its treated like a glorified plugin. It's priced somewhere between the two, so I think they know it's place. It seems to be pitched as something that works with other apps rather then compete against them.
What if we were to question the validity of other music software (FL and similar products) and their abilities on music making?
It's got nothing to do with the ability/lack of ability of the software. It comes down to can u transfer your creative ability on a piece of software..
I use Acid Pro, SoundForge and Reason 4 to produce my music and dont feel there are any limitations on wot I wanna produce. I barely use any VST's or VSTi's (i do use FX tho) and still dont feel limited. I dont need 60 2 oscillator VSTs where 3 synths in Reason do a good/better job.
My reason for choosing Reason over something a little more modular (like FL), is that my background is in studio equipment so I want to see wot is there, wot I've patched in n how. I first started on 2.5 and upgraded to 4 a while back n its just seems to have a nicer sound now, compared to before version 2.5.
I did try FL about 6 yrs n didnt like its look or how it took me 2hrs to get a sound out of the thing.. with Reason, I was playing a distorted trance riff in 5 mins...
Use wot u want cos Im happy with wot i got
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Of coarse you can make an industry standard track in Reason, the sounds may have been used tediously in other tracks but you can re sample and use the latest refills to combat this. the question is are you capable of creating a industry standard track? not a personal jibe but imo up until pre mastering there is no reason, Reason cant perform the job.
I myself have only just bought it so as to rewire it via logic just so i can use Thor.
even though reason is lacking in certain features such as tracking and 3rd party instrument/fx support it doesn't mean its not capable of producing a industry standard track, especially with some of the crap floating about.
in my opinion, i believe that reason is cool for a certain purpose...
for quick pre-production it is great to get ideas out quickly and easily... but because it has a certain sound and its sounds are easily identifiable (if you have been around it or those who use it enough) it is difficult to produce anything unique using it alone...
so personally, i would use it for pre-prod and then re-record the sounds/ideas with better quality/more unique sounding synths/instruments
