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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 3:53 pm Reply with quote
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quick question.
as a producer i am always looking for the best ways to get the best sound and although reason is wicked for its easlily understandable ways of presenting music production I still think it lacks in the overall quility. if i was to buy a pair of decent monitors and really work with my sounds using basic eq's like (paragraphic EQ2) can u create a quility track and could it be accepted as industry standard.

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Reason is often regarded as not as good as other DAWs, but if you spend enough time and effort on a track, there's no reason you can't create a high quality track using it.
Also depends how you use it, for example if you're using mainly rex files and samples then you're basically using it as a sampler, although from a synthesis point of view, a lot more tweaking may be required.

Also depends on what you define as "industry standard".

An example being the recent stuff that has been produced for soulja boy, which quite frankly sounds like most of it has been made by a 12 year old with a casio keyboard.
It's not amazing production (by a long shot), but as it's made it in the industry, we have to regard this as the standard for songs like this....

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I use Reason 3 as the basis for the majority of my work but I use Ableton (previously Cubase) to do the final mix down.

Combine this with Soundforge for final tweeking and I've got a set up that gives me the results I want.

In regard an Industry sound it is as Aidan says it's all about spending enough time on a track, but from experience be careful not to over produce something by spending too much time on a tune.

Decent monitors are a must no matter what DAW you are using. A good sound card is also a benefit Smilie_PDT

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Well, if you're going to limit yourself to Reason on it's own and only the presets. Then no.

However should you Re-Wire it and use it as a VSTi in a fully functioning DAW and create your own sounds in reason, you're laughing.

That said, i do know that Jamiroquai's Album used Reason 3 (A Funk Odyssey) and i heard a few stock samples in there from the Orkester sound file.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 11:36 am Reply with quote
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Just remembered about this article....

The answer to the original question would be a "Yes" as the last Prodigy album was written on Reason...

http://remixmag.com/artists/remix_behind_curtain/

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Keep tweaking your sounds and get them separated in the mix, compress and than compress some more, and make sure your listening to what your doing through a good sound card with quality monitors and you should be able to come up with something that's masterable. (Is that a real word?)

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Does Reason 4.0 have any significant differences to Reason 3.0? I'm thinking about upgrading and haven't seen much on the websites but was wondering if anyone had personally gotten 4.0 and noticed anything worthwhile.

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Reason is perfectly usable for producing 'industry standard music'

If someone can throw a few ideas together on a laptop with Reason and not be chained to a studio costing £600 a day, then why not..

Liam Howlett (The Prodigy) wrote a lot of stuff on Reason. A guy who works with the Black Eyed Peas uses Reason. Andre 3000 uses Reason!!!

Its the simplicity of the software that makes it good to use. Admittedly, its effects and mastering capabilities are slightly lacking but with a bit of fore-thought and creativity u can get around this.

The program may be playing catch up with other software for features that are deemed to create 'industry standard music' but i personally think its perfectly capable of making sweet music and its easily understandable to someone with studio experience..


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Reason 4 has a lot of differences to Reason 3 - transport automation, clips, new virtual hardware, etc. I suggest having a look round the Reason website to see for yourself.

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davefj wrote:
I use Reason 3 as the basis for the majority of my work but I use Ableton (previously Cubase) to do the final mix down.

Combine this with Soundforge for final tweeking and I've got a set up that gives me the results I want.

In regard an Industry sound it is as Aidan says it's all about spending enough time on a track, but from experience be careful not to over produce something by spending too much time on a tune.

Decent monitors are a must no matter what DAW you are using. A good sound card is also a benefit Smilie_PDT

would that be ableton live that u use i always thote that was quite good complicated tho

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well cheers guys cant believe prodigys album was made off reason, wicked!
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reason is a quality peace of kit
when you consider that you can rewire it into cubase , that opens up a whole new world
& cubase is certainly capable of "industry standard" music

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I've had music music solely produced (including mastering) in Reason in the US and UK. Reason is a tool, like any other. Some use it well, some less well.

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DjHoodzy wrote:
davefj wrote:
I use Reason 3 as the basis for the majority of my work but I use Ableton (previously Cubase) to do the final mix down.

Combine this with Soundforge for final tweeking and I've got a set up that gives me the results I want.

In regard an Industry sound it is as Aidan says it's all about spending enough time on a track, but from experience be careful not to over produce something by spending too much time on a tune.

Decent monitors are a must no matter what DAW you are using. A good sound card is also a benefit Smilie_PDT

would that be ableton live that u use i always thote that was quite good complicated tho


Yes, Ableton Live 7
It's not all that complicated when you break it down to it's basics.
It took me about a month of playing around to get my head round the aspects of the programme that I wanted to use for mixing down.
If you set the bpm to that of the track you have written and then take the "warp" option off the clips then it's then just a matter of using the programme as mixing down tool.

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I agree with OTG even though I dont use reason. It really comes down to how well you can use the equipment and how extensive your knowledge is in whatever you are doing/using wether its hardware or software. You can put someone who half way knows what they are doing in the best studio in the area and get poor results, and put someone who knows music like the back of their hand in a low level studio and get quality results.

Its how good you are at using the equipment you have.

Davefj is right, decent monitors are a must no matter what DAW you are using really no matter what your using in general software, or hardware, you simply cant hear the stuff you can through monitors that are set up correctly, when using headphones or crappy speakers.

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Any program is capable of producing outstanding quality music. It depends on how much work the PROGRAMMER puts in to it. Devotion. So if you can really use Reason well, and know the right way to put in your ideas where they need to be, then you may and possibly will create 'Industry Standard' music.

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